China citizens, how do you feel knowing you’re limited to the information you can access on the internet? Do most use VPN software?

China citizens, how do you feel knowing you’re limited to the information you can access on the internet?

Most ordinary people in the world don’t care about political issues, military issues, or even technological developments.

Those who want to pay attention have a way to do so on their own, and it’s not uncommon for individuals to use vpn.

So what’s been restricted? The U.S. election? The Russia-Ukraine war? The war in the Middle East? The U.S.-China trade war? No, it’s not surprising that all of these things can be seen officially in China, it’s just a different perspective. Just as there are people in the US who see China as an enemy, there are people in China who see the US as an enemy. These people get their information from sources of their choosing, and big data analytics have penetrated our lives.

Some Americans stubbornly believe that China is committing genocide in Xinjiang, that masks contain 5g antennas, and that China is monitoring Americans on U.S. soil and in U.S. apps, even though they have no compelling evidence. Similarly, some Chinese believe that the homeless problem abounds in the US, that everyone is a drug addict, that they are stupid people propagandized by the US government’s dumbing down policy, that they can’t afford to go to college, and that there are gunfights every day, even though these Chinese have never been to the US to actually see it.

Believe me, the vast majority of Chinese, the absolute majority of Chinese are more concerned with what to eat at meal times.

@Merrill
This is the right answer.

@Merrill
If most people are only interested in what to eat like you said, why bother blocking those other sites then. Please unblock them for us who are interested in more than just food. The rest of you can still look up recipes or food pictures on 微博 or 小红书.

@Gracen
Is reality Is because they don’t complie with Chinese law

@Merrill
>believe that the homeless problem abounds in the US, that everyone is a drug addict, that they are stupid people propagandized by the US government’s dumbing down policy, that they can’t afford to go to college, and that there are gunfights every day,

Um. As an american I can confirm this is accurate though.

@Merrill
>they are stupid people propagandized by the US government’s dumbing down policy

This one is 100% true though, the evidence is overwhelming. They just sold their democracy in exchange for a carton of eggs.

@Merrill
Same in the West

@Merrill
This part is actually true, to be honest. :grimacing:

Similarly, some Chinese believe that the homeless problem abounds in the US, that everyone is a drug addict, that they are stupid people propagandized by the US government’s dumbing down policy, that they can’t afford to go to college, and that there are gunfights every day

@Merrill
I like the perspective, but there is one thing I think you may be unaware of that concerns cyber capabilities regarding both countries. China has no doubt hacked into as many telecoms and US systems as they possibly can. The amount of resources spent on this, I’m sure, is staggering.

However, you should also be aware that the US and most other significant powers in this world are also. We’re talking utilities, water, power, isp, phone and technology and manufacturing. It’s all being hit every single day.

If you’d like to watch some movies on it, I’m sure I could run them down.

Also, I don’t really think this is wise or even sane, but neither side will stop and leave themselves at a disadvantage. So, in a way, it’s like nuclear arms race all over again.

@Raleigh
That’s why we can’t have nice things.

@Merrill
The uyghurs ARE getting genocided. They ARE sterilized against their will. Their children ARE getting aborted against their will. They ARE forced into slave labour camps until they drop dead. Yes, 80% of the things we learn about China might be skewed western propaganda, but you can’t say they have a clean slate.

@Tamsin
Where is the evidence? (I don’t count NED sponsored actors’ testimony as evidence, even themselves aren’t sterilized) Uyghurs also have a significantly higher birthrate than ethnic han in the same area.

Where are the pictures and videos of people “dropped dead”? There are tons of pictures of the dead in gaza, which the US think is not a genocide. Do you think China is so great at information control, not a single picture or video is getting out? In an age where everyone has smartphones?

Xinjiang is open to tourists. Apply for a visa, look around, ask some local uyghurs yourself.

I am one of those that believes there is systematic discrimination against Uyghurs in China. But believing bullcrap like forced sterilization, forced abortion(they are exempt from one child policy even back when it’s in effect) and worked to death is just rediculous. Even the US government no longer says so, they toned down their genocide narrative to “cultural genocide” since gaza started.

@Tamsin
They are not. Its been debunked. I think you’re just scared that the USA has fallen. Welcome to the new world. Usa is collapsing, Israel is imploding, NATO is folding, south Korea is drying.

Its over. Westie

@Ainsley
:joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy:

@Ainsley
Debunked by who, China? The CCP won’t let anyone near that part of the country. Try to drive near there and the police will stop you.

Tavis said:
@Ainsley
Debunked by who, China? The CCP won’t let anyone near that part of the country. Try to drive near there and the police will stop you.

Exactly, it is true, the fact that American apparel companies can no longer use factories in that area is the clearest way to prove this. Western brands must prove that slave labor is not part of the supply chain. No verification is possible in Xinjiang, for a reason.

@Ainsley
“Debunked” - debunk it without using any CCP controlled information or media. (Also, not an “opinion piece”)

Moe said:
@Ainsley
“Debunked” - debunk it without using any CCP controlled information or media. (Also, not an “opinion piece”)

You could just pick a random western article and read between the lines.

Many westerners regurgitate this propaganda because the articles they read use a tone that makes it seem like the Uyghur genocide allegations are proven. If they dug a little deeper they’d find out that Han majority women have also been sterilized, and at a higher rate. Yet westerners will still point to the sterilization allegation as proof of genocide. Is China committing genocide against the Han majority?

The slave labor allegations are straight up nonsense. Have you read western articles about the slavery allegations. They use a very novel definition of slavery. Apparently if you’re a Chinese Muslim you’re a slave if you willingly learn a new skill and get a higher paying job

@Ainsley
Yes. The usian empire is collapsing together with their peoxies. Leve Palestina and crush the zionism. The future might be brics. But. That doesn’t mean China, Russia, Iran or any other country is excused from criticism. It may have been debunked by chinese “sources”, but in the same time Turkey denies any involvement in the Armenian genocide, using their own sources and the zionists deny the genocide they are perpetrating. So yeah, doesn’t count.